Comments on: The Universal State of Obliviousness/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/The goal of this blog is to create a long list of facts that are important, not trivia, and that are known to be true yet are either disputed by large segments of the public or highly surprising or misunderstood by many.Sun, 02 Feb 2025 06:51:04 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: thomasstigwikman/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1552Mon, 02 Dec 2024 19:46:19 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1552In reply to festo_sanjo.

I think it is a pretty universal problem. As Carl Sagan said in his book the “Demon Haunted World” :

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

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By: festo_sanjo/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1543Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:04:32 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1543Some think what they know is the only thing to believe… especially here in Africa. People are so clingy to dogmatic cultural beliefs that don’t make any sense… and if you try to explain vividly how wrong they are, it’s like waging war with the, lol.

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By: thomasstigwikman/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1542Sun, 01 Dec 2024 23:36:12 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1542In reply to The Oceanside Animals.

Ha ha that is funny dialogue. Obliviousness can be a blessing, a source of a calm and innocent mind, but I guess it is annoying when the oblivious try to lecture others, which dogs and cats never do. Well then we have obliviousness in dangerous situations, like traffic, which is an issue for dogs and cats, but we owners have to be non-oblivious for them.

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By: The Oceanside Animals/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1541Sun, 01 Dec 2024 23:14:42 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1541Charlee: “We cats highly recommend obliviousness. The dogs are completely oblivious to most things, not to mention easily distractible, and they seem pretty happy about it.”
Java Bean: “Ayyy, that is not tru—”
Charlee: “Look, a squirrel.”
Java Bean: “Squirrel?! Where?!?!” (bark bark bark bark)
Charlee: “See what I mea—”
Lulu: “Look, a bird.”
Charlee: “Bird?! Where?!?!” (chatter chatter chatter chatter)

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By: thomasstigwikman/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1476Sat, 30 Nov 2024 04:33:18 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1476In reply to robertawrites235681907.

Yes, when I was a teenager I read a lot of classic science fiction, Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, James Blish, as well as some of Tolkien’s books and they were all translated into Swedish. Later in life I learned to read English books and I read the originals. For example, my favorite Arthur C. Clarke short story was the “The Wall of darkness” or “Mörkrets mur” in Swedish. However, I loved it even more in English because the somewhat poetic aspect of the story telling came though better in English. The first line in The Wall of Darkness is “Many and strange are the universes that drift like bubbles in the foam upon the River of Time.”, which sounds better in English than in Swedish. When it is a bit poetic it tends to sound better in the original language.

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By: robertawrites235681907/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1475Sat, 30 Nov 2024 03:43:08 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1475In reply to thomasstigwikman.

Hi Thomas, it is true that many people don’t travel and don’t take much interest in people and places outside of their immediate circle of reference. I was teasing you. Thank you for this interesting information. I have been to Helsinki, and it was very interesting. Everything was translated into Finish and the book shops were full of books by well know authors translated into Finnish. I found that very interesting. On the plane to Oslo, I sat next to a Norwegian man who was reading The Silmarillion by Tolkien in English. He said he’d previous read it in Norwegian and now he was reading the original.

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By: thomasstigwikman/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1474Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:53:45 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1474In reply to 9siduri.

A bit political but I understand that. Thank you Denise.

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By: 9siduri/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1473Fri, 29 Nov 2024 21:45:33 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1473Maybe I shouldn’t say this, but my least favorite example of obliviousness has to do with the recent election here in the States. I’ll leave it at that.

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By: thomasstigwikman/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1472Fri, 29 Nov 2024 20:07:43 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1472In reply to robertawrites235681907.

I assume you are referring to my last paragraph “…we are all more or less unaware of other cultures, places,…..” You are right, generalizing is being oblivious. However, in regard to “more or less” I know you are definitely very much less. I know you know a lot about cultures, art, nature, literature, the world, economics, and much more and you have amazing experiences, and yet you approach everything with humility. So yes “being unaware” is much less in your case. It is very interesting that South Africa has 11 official languages with their own cultures and 13 for Kenya.

The official language of Sweden is Swedish but there are five official minority languages including Sami, Meänkieli (ancient Swedish form of Finnish), Finnish, Romany and Yiddish. I should say Sami, Meänkieli and Finnish are both very different from Swedish, like you say, not even related to European languages. A linguist told me that the north Swedish dialect I speak, Norrlandish, is really its own language, but not officially though. Norrland has the Swedish culture, but it is very countryside, and therefore a bit different from city thinking and attitudes.

A funny thing happened once when I visited my hometown. A woman at the cash register told me “it is so nice to hear someone speaking the old way” referring to my old-style Norrlandish. It is disappearing because of the TV etc. She continued “where do you live?”, maybe expecting me to live far out in the forest without a TV. When I said Dallas, Texas, in the USA, she looked surprised, and it seemed like she didn’t believe me.

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By: robertawrites235681907/2024/11/29/the-universal-state-of-obliviousness/comment-page-1/#comment-1471Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:09:47 +0000/?p=1107#comment-1471HI Thomas, you shouldn’t generalise – smile! I know a great deal about other cultures. It is of great interest to me to learn and read about other cultures. I am South Africa, and we have 11 official languages here and each goes with its own culture. There are 13 official languages in Kenya and each also goes with its own culture. That is fascinating in itself. You come from Sweden. How many languages are there in Sweden and how many cultures. I know there are Sami people and their culture is different. I think their language is also different.

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